CLEVELAND, Ohio — Gov. Mike DeWine and his wife, Fran, have been spending days in Springfield, attending Catholic church services and ordering from Haitian restaurants. We’re talking about his efforts to help his hometown in the wake of attacks on Haitian migrants from Donald Trump and JD Vance on Today in Ohio. (The podcast may sound off because of technical difficulties today.) Editor Chris Quinn hosts our daily half-hour news podcast, with editorial board member Lisa Garvin, impact editor Leila Atassi and content director Laura Johnston. You’ve been sending Chris lots of thoughts and suggestions on our from-the-newsroom text account, in which he shares what we’re thinking about at cleveland.com. You can sign up here: https://joinsubtext.com/chrisquinn. You can now join the conversation. Call 833-648-6329 (833-OHTODAY) if you’d like to leave a message we can play on the podcast. Here’s what else we’re asking about today: Mike DeWine keeps coming through for Springfield while his fellow Republican leaders continue to bloviate about the false narrative on Haitian refugees. What’s the latest step DeWine is taking to help Springfield deal with a population surge? DeWine allowed a reporter from Politico to shadow him as he tended to Springfield, provided keen insights into how DeWine feels about how the town has been treated and what he wants to do to help. What did we learn? Anyone who has seen footage of the carnage caused by Hurrican Helene in western North Carolina has to feel for the people who live there. Mike DeWine certainly does. How’s he trying to help the people in Asheville and other towns? Former Congressman Tim Ryan was the last candidate to debate JD Vance. What did he tell us he expects tonight when Vance debates Tim Walz in the vice presidential debate? Bernie Moreno predictably ducked the hard questions we would have asked him, but Sherrod Brown did not hesitate to appear before our Editorial Board Monday. What did we learn? Ohio has a new hotline to help report human trafficking. How does it work? Euclid, besieged by youth crime, might go down a road that other cities have travelled unsuccessfully. But cty leaders have their eyes wide open and might not make the trip. What is up for consideration? I feel like it has rained every day for a week, meaning that September ended with a lot of moisture. Was all that water enough to overcome our drought-causing deficit for the month? Travel + Leisure magazine has named Cleveland as one of the 10 places in the nation in a much-desired category. Which one, and whose company are we in? We have an Apple podcasts channel exclusively for this podcast. Subscribe here. Do you get your podcasts on Spotify? Find us here. RadioPublic is another popular podcast vehicle, and we are here. On PodParadise, find us here. And on PlayerFM, we are here. Read the automated transcript below. Because it’s a computer-generated transcript, it contains many errors and misspellings. Chris (00:00) So I wrote a column over the weekend about my experience at university hospitals and how they took such great care of me. And I mentioned in it that there are lots of studies that say that minority communities don’t get the same treatment as white people in hospitals, which is bad and all the hospitals are trying to work on it. But in my experience, in my limited view on the hallway, everybody got treated the same, black, white, young, old, and it was heartening to hear those conversations. Lisa (00:02) about my experience in university hospitals and how they took such good care of me. And I mentioned in it that there are lots of studies that say that minority communities don’t get the same treatment as what people in hospitals, which is bad and a lot of people try to work on it. But in my experience, I’ve lived in a few on the hallway, and everybody got treated the same black way. And I’m involved in these public and security and these conversations. Chris (00:28) Cleveland health director went on social media to attack me. Like I had said, those studies are wrong, which I didn’t say and blasted me saying, you know, I have some kind of implicit bias. Let me say this. He’s the health director of Cleveland and he’s talking about minority communities. He runs a failed lead paint program. If he really cares about minority communities, he’d focus on that instead of taking cheap shots at me. Lisa (00:29) . Chris (00:52) You’re listening to Today in Ohio. It’s the news podcast discussion from cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer. I’m Chris Quinn here with Lisa Garvin, Leila Attasi and Laura Johnston. We’re talking about Mike DeWine. He keeps coming through for Springfield while his fellow Republican leaders continue to bloviate about the false narrative on Haitian refugees. Leila, what’s the latest step DeWine is taking to help Springfield deal with the population surge? Lisa (00:53) You’re listening to Today in Ohio, the first podcast discussion for Cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer. I’m Chris Quinn, here with Lisa Garvin, Leila Kastner, and Laura Johnston. We’re talking about Mike DeWine. He keeps coming through for Springfield while his demo with other believers continue to bloat. What’s the latest step the line is making to Springfield deal with the population surge? Well, the line has announced that nearly $1.4 million in federal funding is being sent to schools in Springfield to help them handle a surge in enrollment that’s good and that community of Haitian migrants. And this is money that was originally part of COVID-19. Leila (01:20) DeWine has announced that nearly $1.4 million in federal funding is being sent to schools in Springfield to help them handle a surge in enrollment that’s driven by that community of Haitian migrants. And this is money that was originally part of COVID-19 relief. And it’ll be used for things like technology, translation services, educator training, and mental health support. In Springfield, city schools will receive the bulk of the funds Lisa (01:38) and it’ll be used for things like technology, translation services, educator training, and mental health support. Springfield City schools will receive the bulk of the funds, but some will also go to schools in Northwest Ohio, like Bingley and Lima, which are also seeing that everything’s free. Leila (01:48) But some will also go to schools in Northwest Ohio like Finley and Lima, which are also seeing an increase in Haitian students. So, DeWine said that these funds will help ease the strain on schools and improve the learning environment for all students. But in addition to that pot of money, DeWine has deployed state troopers to Springfield to ensure safety in schools after bomb threats were reported there and had temporarily closed schools. And DeWine’s office also has supported the creation of school-based health clinics, mobile health services, and driver education programs that are aimed at helping the migrant community adjust. Chris (02:29) I feel like we’re seeing the dewine of 2020 when the pandemic hit and he went into full gear to try and protect Ohioans. He kind of disappeared there for a while while he succumbed to our nutball legislature. But in this case, he’s really standing quite tall. He is doing concrete things to help there showing up there. Lisa (02:30) . Leila (02:39) Mm-hmm. Lisa (02:45) But in this case, he’s a really standing white dog. He is doing concrete things to help there, showing up there. I don’t think this is any way hard. mean, he is being very sincere. He cares about the kids, he cares about the parents, he’s had a right time of caring for his kids, and he’s trying to make a difference. Do you anything, do you split any choices, that’s what you are? I I can think of multiple choices, that’s fantastic. Chris (02:53) I don’t think this is any way phony. think he is being very sincere. He cares about these people. He cares about this town. He’s had a lifetime of caring for Haitians, and he’s trying to make a difference. Leila (03:05) DeWine is, he is good in a crisis, that’s for sure. I mean, I can think of multiple times when he stepped up like this. I think also it’s important to highlight how this assistance to Springfield really goes beyond just immediate relief. It’s investing in education and healthcare access and things like that. I DeWine is addressing the broader challenges that come with a growing migrant community. It’s not just about helping the schools right now. He’s taking steps. to help these families integrate into their new community. And this, I think, could be seen as a model for how other communities might approach sudden changes in population, ensuring that support extends beyond the classroom and into other critical areas of daily life. Lisa (03:42) approach 17th of this week. Chris (03:52) Yeah, I, I’ve just been so impressed with him and I wish other Republicans would follow his lead instead of going all Trumpy like they have. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Lisa, do I not allow a reporter from Politico to shadow him as he tended to Springfield providing some really keen insights into how he feels about how the town has been treated and what he wants to do to help. We learned a lot from this story. Tell us about it. Lisa (03:53) I just couldn’t sell a fresh one. I wish other Republicans would follow. Yeah, and I guess DeWine actually used some salty language as well when he talked to Politico reporter Jonathan Martin. He was with the governor on his recent visit to Springfield. And he is trying to temper criticism. At first, he just kind of tempered the criticism of Trump and Vance about Haitian immigrants, but he really opened up at a dinner that he had with Martin. They got Haitian takeout and they went to DeWine’s home to eat it. And DeWine said during this dinner that he grew more infuriated over Vance calling these Haitian immigrants illegal. He says, it’s just not right and you can’t just make up stuff. He said that he knew there’d be trouble. after Trump’s debate remarks about them eating the pets of Springfield residents. He said those comments were hurtful to lots of people, not just Haitians. Fran Dewine was also at the dinner. She said she met a woman at an Ohio County fair recently with an adopted Chinese daughter. Two days after the debate, the woman was in tears. She feared that Trump would send her daughter back to China. So this is not just affecting Haitians. In Springfield, it’s affecting immigrants all over the country. Also, DeWine says that he was very irritated by delays in getting drivers’ education materials translated into Creole. He says the Ohio Department of Administrative Services has to quote, direct quote, has to get off their ass and get moving. They can’t hold stuff up because you can’t translate something. And he held up a couple of Highlights magazines, which are produced in Ohio, and said, They translated these books into Creole, why can’t you do this with Driver’s Ed stuff? Chris (05:55) Yeah, I, it was a great story by Politico. I don’t think it’s buying a paywall, so anybody can read it. We did a lengthy story about it on clemen.com that has a link to it. You can also read it there. I’m just so heartened to see him doing this. He, we all through the pandemic, reporters would ask him during wine with the wine to criticize Trump, because Trump was doing a lot of nonsense back then and he wouldn’t do it. He’s like, look, I got a good relationship with him. He’s doing right by Ohio. I’m just not going to go there. But this was. pretty much the sweet spot for the wine. It’s small town Ohio that he’s very familiar with. It’s Haitian refugees, which he’s devoted a good part of his life to. And they’re under attack by the vice presidential and presidential candidates of his party. And he won’t stand for it. It’s just so heartening to see him take that stand and say, no more. This is bad for Ohio. He’s defending it. Again, None of his fellow Republicans in this state are standing with him, which is shameful and actually scares you for the future of the governor’s mansion. Maybe Amy Acton will be there and we won’t have any of these loser Republicans who will not have the spine to stand up for Ohio. But way to go, Mike DeWine, great story by Politico. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Lisa (07:03) Mmm. Chris (07:14) Anyone who has seen the footage of the carnage caused by Hurricane Helene in western North Carolina has to feel for the people who live there. Mike DeWine certainly does. Laura, how’s he trying to help the people in Asheville and other towns? Laura (07:29) Dewine has activated the Ohio National Guard. So there’s a couple different groups that are going. There’s one CH-47 helicopter and six soldiers from Company B, 3rd Battalion, 238th Aviation Regiment. That’s in the North Canton area. They are already in North Carolina providing air movement of supplies, equipment, and personnel. And there’s 10 airmen from the Homeland Response Forces 121st Air Refueling Wing. They’re supporting first responders and fatality search and recovery. Because if you read about Asheville, I they’re literally saying there were bodies in trees because that’s how high the water rose up and people were flooded everywhere. They just, they died in the flood and they’re in trees, which is just horrific to think about. And then he deployed the Ohio Department of Administrative Services, their multi-agency radio communication system, which is known as MARCS. the staff and public safety communications equipment there. so MARCS is that wireless digital communication network that connects all the first responders from the multiple jurisdictions during emergencies. It’s managed by the state. They have this tower on wheels, a whole bunch of radios, a portable generator, and those staff members that are gonna travel to Asheville with the Ohio Telecommunicator Emergency Response Task Force. And you’ve gotta believe that a lot of different states are sending. people and supplies because they have this emergency management assistance compact that’s a national mutual aid partnership so they can help each other out. Chris (08:56) Well, there are hundreds of people that the relatives can’t reach. This is a wholesale communication breakdown and they just want to know, they okay? Are they not okay? What’s going on? so communication is a key. This is what you all, we all fear is if we end up in difficult straits in the future, how do you even get to communicate when the systems you rely on go down? But it’s just staggering to think of this area. If you’ve ever visited. Laura (09:00) Mm-hmm. Chris (09:24) Asheville, you would have never thought this is a place that can flood. It’s, protected and far from, from the waterways as possible, but it’s just been devastated in ways that I don’t think anybody foresaw and everybody’s cut off. don’t, we still don’t know how many people have died from drowning. Laura (09:40) No, more than 120 fatalities when I checked yesterday. you’re right. people were just, yeah, the roads are completely closed because of all of these mudslides and the flooding. There was like a whole college where the kids were locked in basically. And yeah, people are just, lost everything. And you’re right. We just. Lisa (09:45) And there’s 600 missing still. Laura (10:05) take it for granted that our cell phones are gonna work, but even if you had a charged cell phone, like the towers aren’t working, yeah, it’s horrific. Chris (10:12) Yeah, no power, no cell phone, no nothing. Food is rotting in the frigerators. I this is, this is bad as it gets. And it’s just a reminder that climate change has completely altered our landscape and, places are getting devastated that in the past we would have thought we’re well protected. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Former Congressman Tim Ryan was the last candidate to debate JD Vance. Weyla, what did he tell us he expects tonight when Vance debates Tim Walz in the only vice presidential debate? Leila (10:44) Ryan said he expects Vance to take a familiar approach using fear-driven rhetoric, similar to that of former President Trump. Right. He predicts that Vance will make claims about Democrats leading the country into World War III, collapsing the economy and warning about immigrants. And he says Vance’s performance will be aimed at pleasing Trump, of course, and that aggressive tactics could backfire by making him seem really unlikable. or too intellectual, I guess. On the other side, Waltz has been preparing for the debate with transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg standing in his vans. And Ryan, who has been offering advice to Waltz’s team, says Waltz’s likability and authenticity will really shine through. He’s a former military member. He’s a former football coach. And he’s known for his ability to counter extreme rhetoric with really relatable down-to-earth communication. And Ryan believes this approach will help Waltz connect with voters, especially younger ones who are drawn to his genuine personality. Ryan says he’s confident that Waltz with his experience and his condom meter will handle Vance’s aggression just fine. And he pointed out that, you know, frankly, most people use these debates as a barometer of how much they like a candidate. So when Vance shows those flashes of anger, or when he comes off as smarty pants or starts peddling lies that will all work against him. And when stacked up against Waltz, Waltz will appear folksy and warm and likable. Chris (12:20) What I think Wallace really should do though is emphasize how close this would put JD Vance to the presidency. Donald Trump is not well, he’s old, you’re seeing signs of dementia start to affect his speeches. And so there is every chance in the world that his vice president would become president. And that’s a frightening prospect given everything we’ve come to learn about Vance. I hope somehow that comes across to an undecided voter. This guy could be president very easily and I don’t think anybody really wants that. Leila (12:56) I think Waltz’s task here is to outvance as someone who’s completely unfit for that office. And then it’s the pundits and the analysts job to connect the dots and help the viewer understand how high stakes that is. Chris (13:15) It’ll be a fascinating debate to watch because so much rides on these. We’ve seen two very eventful presidential debates this year. I one completely changed the campaign. We’ll have to see what happens tonight. We’ll all be glued to it. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Bernie Moreno, the car salesman, predictably ducked the hard questions we would have asked him, but Sherrod Brown did not hesitate to appear before our editorial board Monday. Leila (13:22) now. Chris (13:42) as he runs for reelection to the US Senate. Lisa, what did we learn? Lisa (13:46) Yeah, unfortunately, Bernie Moreno, along with a lot of other Republicans just didn’t want to show up for our endorsement interviews, which you said, because we want to see them debate together. So we had a nice 45 minute talk with Senator Brown. He did talk about, you know, because he’s bipartisan and you know he talks about the dignity of work that’s kind of his key phrase but he was talking about the Railway Safety Act of last year which he actually worked with JD Vanson and he says they’re very close to the 60 votes in the Senate that they need of course the Safety Act would in response to the East Palestine wreck they want two crew members per train they want new hazmat regulations and procedures he says he hopes to bring it up in the lame duck session of Congress after the November election and he talked about the filibuster, which has kept them from passing this bill. And so we had a nice long talk about the filibuster. Sherrod Brown would like to get rid of it. He says that, you know, the railroad company and others have taken advantage of the filibuster to block legislation and that we should just get rid of it. He says if the filibuster is gone, he would immediately push three bills that have been languishing. Number one, the John Lewis Voting Rights Act to restore federal veto power over election laws in states with a history of voter discrimination. Number two, expand the low income child tax credit that was blocked in August by his Republican colleagues in the Senate. And he wants to guarantee abortion rights. He co-sponsored a bill allowing abortion up to fetal viability and then a ban after fetal viability unless the mother’s health or life is at risk. Yeah, so it was interesting discussion on the filibuster. Chris (15:25) Yeah, Ted Dioden, who led the questioning, was trying to get Sherrod Brown to acknowledge that the Democrats would find it to be a disaster if the Republicans had the majority of the Senate with no filibuster. But Brown wasn’t having any of it. He was like, Hey, it’s democracy majority rules. I’m a believer in that. So come what may we’ll deal with it. You get the feeling that he’s tired of the paralysis that the filibuster has created. The Senate’s not getting things done and this would get some movement with whatever party is in charge. Very interesting debate. I was surprised. He really went after the railroads as a special interest that are getting to enough senators getting into their pockets, I guess. Lisa (15:53) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Chris (16:14) to get them to not vote for the railroad safety. Who in their right mind would not vote for the railroad safety? But it just shows you that we have politicians in the federal system, just like we have in Ohio, who are just bought and paid for. We gotta pass that stuff. There will be another derailment like we had in East Palestine. Lisa (16:33) And speaking of opposition to the railroad safety act, Ted Cruz, the Republican from Senator from Texas said that he doesn’t like it because it could be exploited by the Biden administration to restrict fossil fuel shipments. That’s why he’s against Chris (16:48) Yeah, right. What really what he’s saying is the special interests own me and so I’m going to do everything I can to protect them. of the train derails in his state. We’ll see if he changes his tune. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Ohio has a new hotline to help report human trafficking. Laura, how does it work? Laura (17:07) So this is a non-emergency number. It’s 844-NOHHT. That’s 844-363448. And that sends tips about suspected sex and labor trafficking directly to law enforcement. It connects the caller with people who are experienced investigating these tips. It’s run by the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation. They’re going to assess the information, refer to the local law enforcement agencies and human trafficking task force. that’s organized under Dave Yost. It’s under the BCI Special Victims Unit and Organized Crime Investigations Commission. So there is a national human trafficking hotline, but Yost wanted Ohio to have its own because of problems in relying on the national data and having it locally operated up and round the clock and then getting those critical tips to law enforcement in real time. Because if somebody’s being moved against their will, they’re probably not staying in the same place all that long and time is of the essence. Chris (18:10) Yeah, although if they dial 911, they’re going to get the response too, right? Laura (18:14) I would think so, but that’s going to get you to a local dispatcher who probably wouldn’t know what to do with that information. I guess they could just say, hey, police, go get there right now, which would do something that is very fast. This one, seems like they’re going to be investigating first. Chris (18:24) Right. Which is fast. Yeah, we’ll have to see how it works. It does seem like if somebody makes a call for help, the best thing you can do is get them out of the situation as fast as possible and local police being dispatched are the quickest way to do that. Although I guess Cleveland response times are pretty far down. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Euclid besieged by youth crime might go down a road that other cities have traveled unsuccessfully. City leaders have their eyes wide open and might not make the trip though. What’s up for consideration there? Leila (19:03) So this debate was sparked by a really tragic shooting last month that left a 17-year-old dead. The suspect is a 15-year-old who has now been charged with murder. And in response to that, there are these growing concerns in Euclid about youth violence. Euclid City Council is now considering a pretty controversial parental responsibility law, which would hold parents criminally liable if their children commit crimes. And this proposal would escalate penalties for parents. would start at warnings, then go to fines, and even jail time for not adequately supervising your kids. And those backing this legislation say that the law is meant to show the community that the city is serious about curbing youth violence, but critics, including the police, question how effective it will be. They’re arguing that it could unfairly target parents who are already struggling in tough situations. But this isn’t the first time one of our cities here in Northeast Ohio has tried something like this. Back in 2006, Maple Heights passed a similar law to address juvenile crime, and it didn’t really go well. There was a single mother who challenged the law after she was charged when her son was involved in a high-speed chase. And that case made it to the 8th District Court of Appeals, which struck it down, saying that it conflicted with Ohio state law that prevents holding someone criminally responsible. for another person’s actions. That ruling really serves as a cautionary tale as Euclid debates its own parental responsibility laws. But Euclid’s proposal includes a key difference. There’s a written warning on the first offense, which city officials believe could help it stand up in court. But some residents and city officials, including the mayor, are urging caution. They’re saying that the city should focus on enforcing existing laws before passing new legislation that could face a legal challenge. So for now, this proposal is kind of being tabled. It’s being held for further discussion. And they’re going to consider whether it’s the right step. Chris (21:08) We have a great deal of frustration throughout the county with the number of youths are committing crimes. The county prosecutor, Michael Malley, is on a rampage trying to show people that a lot of the violence is being done by youth. everybody’s trying these band-aids to try and deal with it, going after the parents. It doesn’t seem like that’s the way to go. What we’re not doing, which is the hard job, is looking at the root cause. You know, a lot of these kids don’t really look Leila (21:34) Mm-hmm. Chris (21:37) into the future like they have one. A lot of these kids don’t have jobs or job opportunities or opportunities to thrive. And until we get at that, we’re going to continue to have youth crime problems. I get what Euclid’s going through. It’s scary, right? mean, was scary is what we saw over the weekend with the rotting hot rodders taking over intersections, shooting at… Leila (21:49) Right. Chris (22:03) people in the cleveland police knew it was coming in still powerless to stop it everybody wants to fix it you really don’t hear many people talking about the bigger picture Leila (22:14) Yeah, you know, I was the reporter who covered the Maple Heights law when that happened back in 2006. And back then, I remember feeling like it was a great idea. Of course, I was 26 years old and I had no kids of my own. And today, you know, I’m 44 and I have three kids and at least one of them is pretty strong willed. So I understand the challenges of parenting. In many of the cases we’re talking about here. These are single moms who are trying to keep it all together at home. Chris (22:26) the Leila (22:41) You throw into the mix a strong-willed kid who’s being influenced by the wrong crowd, and I’m sure that she finds herself pretty helpless to keep her kid on the right path sometimes. So why are we not offering that mother more support? Why are we not providing more after-school opportunities, more mentorship opportunities? These are the programs that we know work, but it takes work, and it takes will to make it happen. And what Euclid is doing here… Chris (23:03) Right. Leila (23:08) is taking what seems like an easier path. Charging parents with crimes won’t solve this problem. It will only create the illusion of having done something to solve the problem. Chris (23:11) Right. Our delinquent series looked at all these issues and it was clear if you read it that there is a better way. Like you said, with mentorship and help and we don’t put the resources into it. We already have laws that’ll penalize a parent if they provide a gun to a kid that’s not supposed to have it. There are laws on the books about reckless parenting. This seems like it’s a step too far. Again, I get the frustration. And Euclid cannot fix this by itself. This is a community-wide effort and we’re just not focused on it yet, even though the answers are pretty clear. Hopefully the conversation will continue. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Lisa, I feel like it’s rained every day for 10 days, meaning that September ended with a whole lot of moisture. Was that water enough to overcome our drought causing deficit for the month? Lisa (24:11) Not really. According to data from the National Weather Service, September was the fifth consecutive month of below normal rainfall and that’s despite the effects from Hurricane Helene that we saw over the weekend. So in September Cleveland, as measured at Hopkins Airport, had 2.71 inches of rain for the month. That’s more than an inch below the normal levels. We usually get close to four inches of rain in a typical September. The five previous months were also at least one inch behind in rainfall. So September 6th, we had one and a quarter inches of rainfall. Then we had two weeks without any rain at all. And that started to lead to abnormally dry conditions in Northeast Ohio. But on the 22nd of September, we got just a little bit, about a quarter inch of rainfall that broke the dry spell. And then we had consecutive days of rain through the 27th last weekend. So, we did get a little boost from Helene, but it really wasn’t enough. Chris (25:11) I’m ready for sun. I want some October sun. It’s been far too great. feel like every day since I got out of the hospital, it’s just been gloomy and gray. I’m ready to feel the warmth of that sun. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Travel and Leisure Magazine has named Cleveland one of the top 10 places in the nation in a much desired category. Laura, which one and whose company are we in? Lisa (25:13) Yeah. Laura (25:37) It’s for food, which probably doesn’t surprise anyone. And we have a huge food staff that writes all about the incredible destinations that you can taste in Cleveland. So we’re one of the 10 best foodie destinations in the United States, along with cities like New York, Chicago, Louisville, and San Francisco. We got this shout out from Travel and Leisure, which is a high-end magazine. If you ever page through it and you look at their $5,000 a night places to stay, this is big time. So it’s the eclectic local food scene that they’re praising. Skilled chefs, local farm resources, and neighborhoods like Asiatown, Slavic Village, and of course, the West Side Market in Ohio City. They even called out some specific restaurants like Cordelia and the Judith as buzzworthy new additions, plus black-owned and black-led restaurants like Pearl’s Kitchen, Yonder, and Cleveland Cold Brew as places to seek out. Chris (26:31) It’s very cool to get the recognition. The foodie scene here has been developing for a long time now. mean, it’s been building and building and building and to get that kind of national recognition. And it’s hard to do. Every city tries to build the foodie culture. Cleveland has successfully done it. This honor kind of shows that. Laura (26:38) Mm-hmm. Yeah, it’s impressive. And I really should be better about tasting all of the places that we have because we write about them all the time. And so I was like, that’s so nice. And then I never cook in my kitchen for my kids. So I should make myself a list and check it off in the next year. do you? Lisa (27:08) I actually have a spreadsheet of all the restaurants I’ve visited since I’ve been back to Ohio. It’s up, yeah, it’s up. Yeah, I love spreadsheets, but I just kind of wanted to keep track. And during the pandemic when cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer were writing articles about these restaurants you should patronize, unless they disappear, I used that as kind of my list to kind of check things out. Chris (27:12) Wow. Laura (27:13) That’s cool. Chris (27:29) Wow, that’s pretty cool. Should have you write about your experience. It would be one people would follow. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. That’s it for the Tuesday episode. Thanks, Lisa. Thanks, Leila. Thanks, Laura. Thank you for listening. We’ll be back Wednesday talking about the news.
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